Discussion:
Is Cyberpunk Now?
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Diode
2012-10-06 18:22:37 UTC
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Ok, I don't know if we are presently living in the CP future, but god damn are
we getting close. I mean look at wear we are. Everyone is walking around with
networked computers. I can buy, off the shelf for less that $1000, a video
display visor and a rig that allows me to control a pc with my brain wave
patterns. There are international hacker groups running rampant in the grid
doing both good and evil. There are self driving cars, robots for home,
industry and war. We have soldiers returning from was with a wide variety
of state of the art robotic prosthetics.

I'm just saying, it smells a lot like the future in here.
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cykros
2012-10-07 04:52:27 UTC
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I find it amusing that you point to it being the future while posting to
Usenet via a BBS system :-) (not making fun...I use BBS's, and obviously
still use Usenet...the irony is just too much not to mention). I'll be
really convinced we're in the future when we have more obvious
Megacorporations. They're getting there, but not QUITE to the level of
Gibson novels (yet), at least in most of the Western world.

On the other hand, we do have tools for ensuring anonymity (never mind
things like obfsproxy, which was the most cyberpunk thing I've ever seen
outside of fiction), bootable systems primarily geared at network
intrusion, and all manner of offensive and defensive tools for network
and data security, in addition to a wide variety of utilities that can
be used most anywhere on the planet. My only real reason for not
asserting that we're "there" is simply because the societal structuring
is not really as bad as what I envision when it comes to real cyberpunk
settings. It's just not quite conducive enough to the generation of
anti-heroes...

cykros
Post by Diode
Ok, I don't know if we are presently living in the CP future, but god damn are
we getting close. I mean look at wear we are. Everyone is walking around with
networked computers. I can buy, off the shelf for less that $1000, a video
display visor and a rig that allows me to control a pc with my brain wave
patterns. There are international hacker groups running rampant in the grid
doing both good and evil. There are self driving cars, robots for home,
industry and war. We have soldiers returning from was with a wide variety
of state of the art robotic prosthetics.
I'm just saying, it smells a lot like the future in here.
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Diode
2012-10-08 01:21:43 UTC
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To: cykros
Re: Re: Is Cyberpunk Now?
By: cykros to alt.cyberpunk on Sun Oct 07 2012 00:52:27
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I find it amusing that you point to it being the future while posting to
Yeah, the irony is not lost on me. I've been working with Backtrack5 a lot
lately, and the feeling of connecting to the past through linux software is
palpable. On the onthere hand, despite looking "retro" it is state of the art
intrusion software. It may not be Kwaung Grade 5 or what ever it was that Case
hacked Wintermute with, but it's pretty spiffy.
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Gnus - Gnus not usenet subscriber
2012-10-09 01:44:32 UTC
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:52:27 -0400 (1 day, 20 hours, 38 minutes ago)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
I find it amusing that you point to it being the future while posting to
Usenet via a BBS system :-) (not making fun...I use BBS's, and obviously
still use Usenet...the irony is just too much not to mention).
...
cykros
Definitely good irony. Maybe this *is* the future...
Post by Diode
Ok, I don't know if we are presently living in the CP future, but god
damn are we getting close. I mean look at wear we are. Everyone is
walking around with
networked computers. I can buy, off the shelf for less that $1000, a video
display visor and a rig that allows me to control a pc with my brain wave
patterns. There are international hacker groups running rampant in the grid
doing both good and evil. There are self driving cars, robots for home,
industry and war. We have soldiers returning from was with a wide variety
of state of the art robotic prosthetics.
I'm just saying, it smells a lot like the future in here.
I thought cyberpunk was figuratively about 20 minutes into the future.

Jorgen LeFou
weltmaschine
2012-10-13 10:29:42 UTC
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yeah and intel wants to prepare the mass market for accepting a new
product they have investet a lot of money for research and development:
brain implants as the future brain-computer-interface (not the external
devices for the consumer of today).

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-chip-brain-implants-control,9131.html

because they think "human beings are remarkable adaptive"...
( Andrew Chien, vice president of research and director of future
technologies research at Intel Labs)

that is an example for a big corporation, trying aggressively to stick a
new product in the ass of the consumer, that is in fact a totaly
unreflected danger for the integrity and autonomy of the self, shocking
the most basic anthropological dimensions driven by economic motivation,
telling you its a "revolution" for the consumer.

that is cyberpunk! we are heading towards small scenes in digital
culture that call themselfs biohackers, neurohackers or self-quantifiers.




ah yeah and do you know lepht anonym?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/transcending-the-human-diy-style/



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